Bible Esther and Cousin Mordecai Sexual lovers?
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Everything points to that. Let me explain.
Esther. Her open minded sexuality played a big part in her becoming the new Queen and saving all the Jewish people from being totally wipe out forever.
She had to win a beauty and SEX contest to become the Queen. Her cousin, Mordecai, encouraged her, the king’s men taught sexually what the king liked sexually. (not by just talk neither, but by having sex with her many times) All the kings’ men like Esther sexually. They knew she would win the sex contest.
Side note. Esther had no mother or father, Her older Cousin, Mordecai, took her in to live with him. acted as her father. Esther, was very beautiful and very sexy.
Remember in the old days Cousins could marry, very common for cousin to marry.
Also remember Unlike today, in Bible days, many times everyone sleep in the same bed. Old Bible day's they had very few beds and very few cloths. During Jesus time would work , fish, sleep, play sport and lot more things in the nude. Today TV don’t show the truth.
Also remember it is very , very Hot there and many times they may walk around nude and sleep in the same bed nude to be cooler. Remember NO A/C.
Mordecai, being older and Esther being very sexy and very beautiful, it would be very easy to become sexual lovers . They could easily be married if they wanted to be.
Mordecai, taught Esther how to win a sex contest. Sexually ignorance girls, and sexually inexperience girls and low sex drive girls do not win a sex contest.
Single Jewish girl would have lots of oral sex and anal sex to avoid vagina sex so not to break their hymen and not to get pregnant before their wedding day.
Remember single Jewish girls had to get someone to pay a lot of money to marry them but still be a virgin at marriage. The answer to that was to be nude a lot and have lots of oral sex and lots of anal sex then a guy would want to pay lots of money to marry them and still be a virgin and not get pregnant but have lot of fun sexually.
Parents were very hard at work leaving single girls and guys alone for long period of time. Lots of time to have lots of oral sex and anal sex and still be a virgin.
Read Song of Solomon, lots of nude dating on her bed, they had lots of oral sex and more and likely lots of anal sex but no vagina sex, because she was still a virgin at the end of SOS 8:10 meaning they were not married.
Jewish Married Girls got there hymen broken in the middle of the wedding day while everyone is waiting. To prove she was still a virgin sold at a virgin price, and then the bloody bed sheet was given to the parents as proof she was a virgin at the wedding day.
Song of Solomon 8:10 NLT
New Living Translation
"I am chaste, and I am now full breasted. And my lover is content with me.
The big proof of this would be that Esther knew a lot about sexual pleasure and what a man likes sexually being a very young girl. If older cousin Mordecai and very sexy Esther were sexual lovers then
Esther would had a lot more sexual experience and knew more about sexual pleasing a men then the other virgins girls had and would have had no problem giving the much older king lots of oral sex and anal sex she had lots of experience being nude in front of others and very experience giving oral sex and anal sex.
Also Esther would have been very high sex drive to win a sex contest. Also having sex with a much older man was no problem to Esther. Sexual lover Cousin Mordecai was much older then Esther. The king would have been much older then Esther.
Many things you can clearly see that cousin Mordecai and sexy Esther were sexual lovers giving Esther major advantage over her other virgin girls competion.
Esther greatly enjoy sexuality herself with her very high sex drive, and loved meeting men sexual needs and she did.
If she was not the best sexually and greatly loved sexual pleasure she would not have become queen and she would not have saved all the Jewish Hebrew people from total wipe out.
Do you real think a low sex drive, anti-sexual freedom, holier-then-thou , girl could win any sex contest? NO way.
She was the best sexually. She loved sex and love having sex with men and make men happy sexually. The king wanted the best sexual women to be his queen.
Because of her very high sex drive she ended up saving the whole Jewish Hebrew nation from total wipe out.
http://forums.delphiforums.com/libchrist/messages?msg=2444.2Is this just a weak speculation?
The opposite is true. If you just read the Bible without doing a lot of research and asking a lot of questions and study the context from every angle, you may come up with the wrong understanding and take it out of context and come up with the wrong conclusion. This is why they have wrong sexual teaching in the first place.
The reason false teaching like monogamy come about is because:
1.) Major violation of rules of hermeneutics. Hermeneutics says when you study any Bible subject you first start from the beginning and study all you can in correct context and study the events, cultures, history, everything you can to correctly understand the subject matter.
2.) Keep it in context with the chapter, book, the whole Bible.
3.) Who said it
4.) Why they say it
5.) Where it was said
6.) What was said
7.) Event related to it
8.) Who is it said to and why
9.) Many, many other questions like these to come up with the correct understanding
10.) Of course most important is ask God to open your eyes to truth and give you wisdom to see the truth.
Back to Esther and Mordecai, question 1 is, “How can a very young girl win any sex contest?” Some one taught her. Question 2 , “Who taught her? A friend? a previous lover? The kings men? Her parents? A brother? A close loving cousin?
As anyone who has dated many women, knows that “dating”, “kissing”, “French kissing” , “heavy petting “ “love making “ type passionate loving needs to be taught or learned. It takes time and a lot of learning to be a great lover, to be a great kisser, to be good a making love needs a good teacher.
Above on question 2, you can rule out her parents, because they are dead.
You more in likely can rule out a, brother, because there is no mention of a brother.
I first thought maybe the king’s men taught her how to sexually please the king. I think this is part of the answer, but you read Esther more carefully, you see that all the kings men liked Esther very early on, and if the king’s men taught all the very young girls, why was Esther way ahead of all the other young girls.
To me the only answer is her older, very loving cousin, Mordecai.
Then you look a lot deeper if that could be a weak or very strong possibility and the answer I find is that it can be a very, very strong possibility. The more I think about it, the more I am sure it had to be that way.
When you read the Bible you see some of lovers and Jewish marriage with brother/sister, and a lot more of Jewish marriages with cousins or close relation. Mordecai was Esther’s very close older cousin.
Cousin Mordecai would be a very high candidate for marriage to Esther.
Also, if she did not marry Mordecai, he could teach her to be a great sexual lover so she could find a great husband that would pay a lot of money to marry her. Jewish girl to protect from breaking their hymen would be quick to have oral sex and maybe anal sex to find a lover who would be willing to pay a lot of money to marry her and still not break her hymen before she was married.
Read SOS to learn they had lots of oral sex , and more an likely anal sex , to avoid not breaking her hymen.
http://inkaboutit4u.com/bible-song-of-solomon-they-were-not-married.html
Mordecai could easily be having oral sex and anal sex with Esther , because he loved her a lot, and to either prepare her to seduce a rich husband to be, and her hymen would not be broken or maybe she would marry Mordecai himself. Also if her hymen was broken or she got pregnant she could marry Mordecai as backup.
Single women, Ruth, sexual seduced Boas before they were married. Boas was a much older kinsmen.
In SOS the young single girl was have oral sex and more an likely anal sex but no vagina sex because Jewish girl would make a lot of money for the father and family by not breaking their hymen and by sexually seducing a rich man to marry her by being good at oral sex and anal sex.
Esther in the Bible.
Esther 2:1 After these things, when the king's feelings were calmer, the thought of Vashti and what she had done and the order he had made against her, came back to his mind.
2 Then the servants who were waiting on the king said to him, Let search be made for some fair young virgins for the king:
3 Let the king give authority to certain men in all the divisions of his kingdom, to get together all the fair young virgins and send them to Shushan, the king's town, to the women's house, under the care of Hegai, the king's servant, the keeper of the women: and let the things needed for making them clean be given to them;
4 And let the girl who is pleasing to the king be queen in place of Vashti. And the king was pleased with this suggestion; and he did so.
Esther 2:5 Now there was a certain Jew in Shushan named Mordecai, the son of Jair, the son of Shimei, the son of Kish, a Benjamite;
6 Who had been taken away from Jerusalem among those who had been made prisoner with Jeconiah, king of Judah, when Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon, had taken him away.
7 And he had been a father to Hadassah, that is Esther, the daughter of his father's brother: for she had no father or mother, and she was very beautiful; and when her father and mother were dead, Mordecai took her for his daughter.
8 So when the order made by the king was publicly given out, and a number of girls had been placed in the care of Hegai in the king's house in Shushan, Esther was taken into the king's house and put in the care of Hegai, the keeper of the women.
9 And he was pleased with the girl and was kind to her; and he quickly gave her what was needed for making her clean, and the things which were hers by right, and seven servant-girls who were to be hers from the king's house: and he had her and her servant-girls moved to the best place in the women's part of the house.
10 Esther had not said what family or people she came from, for Mordecai had given her orders not to do so.
11 And every day Mordecai took his walk before the square of the women's house, to see how Esther was and what would be done to her.
12 Now every girl, when her turn came, had to go in to King Ahasuerus, after undergoing, for a space of twelve months, what was ordered by the law for the women (for this was the time necessary for making them clean, that is, six months with oil of myrrh and six months with sweet perfumes and such things as are needed for making women clean):
13 And in this way the girl went in to the king; whatever she had a desire for was given to her to take with her from the women's house into the house of the king.
14 In the evening she went, and on the day after she came back to the second house of the women, into the keeping of Shaashgaz, one of the king's unsexed servants who had the care of the king's wives: only if the king had delight in her and sent for her by name did she go in to him again.
15 Now when the time came for Esther, the daughter of Abihail, his father's brother, whom Mordecai had taken as his daughter, to go in to the king, she made request for nothing but what Hegai, the king's servant and keeper of the women, had given her. And Esther was looked on kindly by all who saw her.
16 So Esther was taken in to King Ahasuerus in his house in the tenth month, which is the month Tebeth, in the seventh year of his rule.
(Esther won the sex and beauty Contest and became the New Queen.)
17 And Esther was more pleasing to the king than all the women, and to his eyes she was fairer and more full of grace than all the other virgins: so he put his crown on her head and made her queen in place of Vashti.
18 Then the king gave a great feast for all his captains and his servants, even Esther's feast; and he gave orders through all the divisions of his kingdom for a day of rest from work, and gave wealth from his store.
19 And when the virgins came together in the second house of the women, Mordecai took his seat in the doorway of the king's house.
20 Esther had still said nothing of her family or her people, as Mordecai had given her orders; for Esther did what Mordecai said, as when she was living with him.
How Vashti the queen lost her Queenship.
Esther 1:10 On the seventh day, when the heart of the king was glad with wine, he gave orders to Mehuman, Biztha, Harbona, Bigtha, and Abagtha, Zethar, and Carcas, the seven unsexed servants who were waiting before Ahasuerus the king,
11 That Vashti the queen was to come before him, crowned with her crown, and let the people and the captains see her: for she was very beautiful.
12 But when the servants gave her the king's order, Vashti the queen said she would not come: then the king was very angry, and his heart was burning with wrath.
13 And the king said to the wise men, who had knowledge of the times, (for this was the king's way with all who were expert in law and in the giving of decisions:
14 And second only to him were Carshena, Shethar, Admatha, Tarshish, Meres, Marsena, and Memucan, the seven rulers of Persia and Media, who were friends of the king, and had the first places in the kingdom:)
15 What is to be done by law to Vashti the queen, because she has not done what King Ahasuerus, by his servants, gave her orders to do?
16 And before the king and the captains, Memucan gave his answer: Vashti the queen has done wrong, not only to the king, but to all the captains and to all the peoples in all the divisions of the kingdom of King Ahasuerus;
17 For news of what the queen has done will come to the ears of all women, and they will no longer give respect to their husbands when it is said to them, King Ahasuerus gave orders for Vashti the queen to come before him and she came not.
18 And the wives of the captains of Persia and Media, hearing what the queen has done, will say the same to all the king's captains. So there will be much shame and wrath.
19 If it is pleasing to the king, let an order go out from him, and let it be recorded among the laws of the Persians and the Medes, so that it may never be changed, that Vashti is never again to come before King Ahasuerus; and let the king give her place to another who is better than she.
20 And when this order, given by the king, is made public through all his kingdom (for it is great), all the wives will give honour to their husbands, great as well as small.
21 And this suggestion seemed good to the king and the captains; and the king did as Memucan said;
22 And sent letters to all the divisions of the kingdom, to every division in the writing commonly used there, and to every people in the language which was theirs, saying that every man was to be the ruler in his house, and that this order was to be given out in the language of his people.
http://inkaboutit4u.com/?p=Bible_Esther_and_Cousin_Mordecai_Sexual_lovers
Everything points to that. Let me explain.
Esther. Her open minded sexuality played a big part in her becoming the new Queen and saving all the Jewish people from being totally wipe out forever.
She had to win a beauty and SEX contest to become the Queen. Her cousin, Mordecai, encouraged her, the king’s men taught sexually what the king liked sexually. (not by just talk neither, but by having sex with her many times) All the kings’ men like Esther sexually. They knew she would win the sex contest.
Side note. Esther had no mother or father, Her older Cousin, Mordecai, took her in to live with him. acted as her father. Esther, was very beautiful and very sexy.
Remember in the old days Cousins could marry, very common for cousin to marry.
Also remember Unlike today, in Bible days, many times everyone sleep in the same bed. Old Bible day's they had very few beds and very few cloths. During Jesus time would work , fish, sleep, play sport and lot more things in the nude. Today TV don’t show the truth.
Also remember it is very , very Hot there and many times they may walk around nude and sleep in the same bed nude to be cooler. Remember NO A/C.
Mordecai, being older and Esther being very sexy and very beautiful, it would be very easy to become sexual lovers . They could easily be married if they wanted to be.
Mordecai, taught Esther how to win a sex contest. Sexually ignorance girls, and sexually inexperience girls and low sex drive girls do not win a sex contest.
Single Jewish girl would have lots of oral sex and anal sex to avoid vagina sex so not to break their hymen and not to get pregnant before their wedding day.
Remember single Jewish girls had to get someone to pay a lot of money to marry them but still be a virgin at marriage. The answer to that was to be nude a lot and have lots of oral sex and lots of anal sex then a guy would want to pay lots of money to marry them and still be a virgin and not get pregnant but have lot of fun sexually.
Parents were very hard at work leaving single girls and guys alone for long period of time. Lots of time to have lots of oral sex and anal sex and still be a virgin.
Read Song of Solomon, lots of nude dating on her bed, they had lots of oral sex and more and likely lots of anal sex but no vagina sex, because she was still a virgin at the end of SOS 8:10 meaning they were not married.
Jewish Married Girls got there hymen broken in the middle of the wedding day while everyone is waiting. To prove she was still a virgin sold at a virgin price, and then the bloody bed sheet was given to the parents as proof she was a virgin at the wedding day.
Song of Solomon 8:10 NLT
New Living Translation
"I am chaste, and I am now full breasted. And my lover is content with me.
The big proof of this would be that Esther knew a lot about sexual pleasure and what a man likes sexually being a very young girl. If older cousin Mordecai and very sexy Esther were sexual lovers then
Esther would had a lot more sexual experience and knew more about sexual pleasing a men then the other virgins girls had and would have had no problem giving the much older king lots of oral sex and anal sex she had lots of experience being nude in front of others and very experience giving oral sex and anal sex.
Also Esther would have been very high sex drive to win a sex contest. Also having sex with a much older man was no problem to Esther. Sexual lover Cousin Mordecai was much older then Esther. The king would have been much older then Esther.
Many things you can clearly see that cousin Mordecai and sexy Esther were sexual lovers giving Esther major advantage over her other virgin girls competion.
Esther greatly enjoy sexuality herself with her very high sex drive, and loved meeting men sexual needs and she did.
If she was not the best sexually and greatly loved sexual pleasure she would not have become queen and she would not have saved all the Jewish Hebrew people from total wipe out.
Do you real think a low sex drive, anti-sexual freedom, holier-then-thou , girl could win any sex contest? NO way.
She was the best sexually. She loved sex and love having sex with men and make men happy sexually. The king wanted the best sexual women to be his queen.
Because of her very high sex drive she ended up saving the whole Jewish Hebrew nation from total wipe out.
http://forums.delphiforums.com/libchrist/messages?msg=2444.2Is this just a weak speculation?
The opposite is true. If you just read the Bible without doing a lot of research and asking a lot of questions and study the context from every angle, you may come up with the wrong understanding and take it out of context and come up with the wrong conclusion. This is why they have wrong sexual teaching in the first place.
The reason false teaching like monogamy come about is because:
1.) Major violation of rules of hermeneutics. Hermeneutics says when you study any Bible subject you first start from the beginning and study all you can in correct context and study the events, cultures, history, everything you can to correctly understand the subject matter.
2.) Keep it in context with the chapter, book, the whole Bible.
3.) Who said it
4.) Why they say it
5.) Where it was said
6.) What was said
7.) Event related to it
8.) Who is it said to and why
9.) Many, many other questions like these to come up with the correct understanding
10.) Of course most important is ask God to open your eyes to truth and give you wisdom to see the truth.
Back to Esther and Mordecai, question 1 is, “How can a very young girl win any sex contest?” Some one taught her. Question 2 , “Who taught her? A friend? a previous lover? The kings men? Her parents? A brother? A close loving cousin?
As anyone who has dated many women, knows that “dating”, “kissing”, “French kissing” , “heavy petting “ “love making “ type passionate loving needs to be taught or learned. It takes time and a lot of learning to be a great lover, to be a great kisser, to be good a making love needs a good teacher.
Above on question 2, you can rule out her parents, because they are dead.
You more in likely can rule out a, brother, because there is no mention of a brother.
I first thought maybe the king’s men taught her how to sexually please the king. I think this is part of the answer, but you read Esther more carefully, you see that all the kings men liked Esther very early on, and if the king’s men taught all the very young girls, why was Esther way ahead of all the other young girls.
To me the only answer is her older, very loving cousin, Mordecai.
Then you look a lot deeper if that could be a weak or very strong possibility and the answer I find is that it can be a very, very strong possibility. The more I think about it, the more I am sure it had to be that way.
When you read the Bible you see some of lovers and Jewish marriage with brother/sister, and a lot more of Jewish marriages with cousins or close relation. Mordecai was Esther’s very close older cousin.
Cousin Mordecai would be a very high candidate for marriage to Esther.
Also, if she did not marry Mordecai, he could teach her to be a great sexual lover so she could find a great husband that would pay a lot of money to marry her. Jewish girl to protect from breaking their hymen would be quick to have oral sex and maybe anal sex to find a lover who would be willing to pay a lot of money to marry her and still not break her hymen before she was married.
Read SOS to learn they had lots of oral sex , and more an likely anal sex , to avoid not breaking her hymen.
http://inkaboutit4u.com/bible-song-of-solomon-they-were-not-married.html
Mordecai could easily be having oral sex and anal sex with Esther , because he loved her a lot, and to either prepare her to seduce a rich husband to be, and her hymen would not be broken or maybe she would marry Mordecai himself. Also if her hymen was broken or she got pregnant she could marry Mordecai as backup.
Single women, Ruth, sexual seduced Boas before they were married. Boas was a much older kinsmen.
In SOS the young single girl was have oral sex and more an likely anal sex but no vagina sex because Jewish girl would make a lot of money for the father and family by not breaking their hymen and by sexually seducing a rich man to marry her by being good at oral sex and anal sex.
Esther in the Bible.
Esther 2:1 After these things, when the king's feelings were calmer, the thought of Vashti and what she had done and the order he had made against her, came back to his mind.
2 Then the servants who were waiting on the king said to him, Let search be made for some fair young virgins for the king:
3 Let the king give authority to certain men in all the divisions of his kingdom, to get together all the fair young virgins and send them to Shushan, the king's town, to the women's house, under the care of Hegai, the king's servant, the keeper of the women: and let the things needed for making them clean be given to them;
4 And let the girl who is pleasing to the king be queen in place of Vashti. And the king was pleased with this suggestion; and he did so.
Esther 2:5 Now there was a certain Jew in Shushan named Mordecai, the son of Jair, the son of Shimei, the son of Kish, a Benjamite;
6 Who had been taken away from Jerusalem among those who had been made prisoner with Jeconiah, king of Judah, when Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon, had taken him away.
7 And he had been a father to Hadassah, that is Esther, the daughter of his father's brother: for she had no father or mother, and she was very beautiful; and when her father and mother were dead, Mordecai took her for his daughter.
8 So when the order made by the king was publicly given out, and a number of girls had been placed in the care of Hegai in the king's house in Shushan, Esther was taken into the king's house and put in the care of Hegai, the keeper of the women.
9 And he was pleased with the girl and was kind to her; and he quickly gave her what was needed for making her clean, and the things which were hers by right, and seven servant-girls who were to be hers from the king's house: and he had her and her servant-girls moved to the best place in the women's part of the house.
10 Esther had not said what family or people she came from, for Mordecai had given her orders not to do so.
11 And every day Mordecai took his walk before the square of the women's house, to see how Esther was and what would be done to her.
12 Now every girl, when her turn came, had to go in to King Ahasuerus, after undergoing, for a space of twelve months, what was ordered by the law for the women (for this was the time necessary for making them clean, that is, six months with oil of myrrh and six months with sweet perfumes and such things as are needed for making women clean):
13 And in this way the girl went in to the king; whatever she had a desire for was given to her to take with her from the women's house into the house of the king.
14 In the evening she went, and on the day after she came back to the second house of the women, into the keeping of Shaashgaz, one of the king's unsexed servants who had the care of the king's wives: only if the king had delight in her and sent for her by name did she go in to him again.
15 Now when the time came for Esther, the daughter of Abihail, his father's brother, whom Mordecai had taken as his daughter, to go in to the king, she made request for nothing but what Hegai, the king's servant and keeper of the women, had given her. And Esther was looked on kindly by all who saw her.
16 So Esther was taken in to King Ahasuerus in his house in the tenth month, which is the month Tebeth, in the seventh year of his rule.
(Esther won the sex and beauty Contest and became the New Queen.)
17 And Esther was more pleasing to the king than all the women, and to his eyes she was fairer and more full of grace than all the other virgins: so he put his crown on her head and made her queen in place of Vashti.
18 Then the king gave a great feast for all his captains and his servants, even Esther's feast; and he gave orders through all the divisions of his kingdom for a day of rest from work, and gave wealth from his store.
19 And when the virgins came together in the second house of the women, Mordecai took his seat in the doorway of the king's house.
20 Esther had still said nothing of her family or her people, as Mordecai had given her orders; for Esther did what Mordecai said, as when she was living with him.
How Vashti the queen lost her Queenship.
Esther 1:10 On the seventh day, when the heart of the king was glad with wine, he gave orders to Mehuman, Biztha, Harbona, Bigtha, and Abagtha, Zethar, and Carcas, the seven unsexed servants who were waiting before Ahasuerus the king,
11 That Vashti the queen was to come before him, crowned with her crown, and let the people and the captains see her: for she was very beautiful.
12 But when the servants gave her the king's order, Vashti the queen said she would not come: then the king was very angry, and his heart was burning with wrath.
13 And the king said to the wise men, who had knowledge of the times, (for this was the king's way with all who were expert in law and in the giving of decisions:
14 And second only to him were Carshena, Shethar, Admatha, Tarshish, Meres, Marsena, and Memucan, the seven rulers of Persia and Media, who were friends of the king, and had the first places in the kingdom:)
15 What is to be done by law to Vashti the queen, because she has not done what King Ahasuerus, by his servants, gave her orders to do?
16 And before the king and the captains, Memucan gave his answer: Vashti the queen has done wrong, not only to the king, but to all the captains and to all the peoples in all the divisions of the kingdom of King Ahasuerus;
17 For news of what the queen has done will come to the ears of all women, and they will no longer give respect to their husbands when it is said to them, King Ahasuerus gave orders for Vashti the queen to come before him and she came not.
18 And the wives of the captains of Persia and Media, hearing what the queen has done, will say the same to all the king's captains. So there will be much shame and wrath.
19 If it is pleasing to the king, let an order go out from him, and let it be recorded among the laws of the Persians and the Medes, so that it may never be changed, that Vashti is never again to come before King Ahasuerus; and let the king give her place to another who is better than she.
20 And when this order, given by the king, is made public through all his kingdom (for it is great), all the wives will give honour to their husbands, great as well as small.
21 And this suggestion seemed good to the king and the captains; and the king did as Memucan said;
22 And sent letters to all the divisions of the kingdom, to every division in the writing commonly used there, and to every people in the language which was theirs, saying that every man was to be the ruler in his house, and that this order was to be given out in the language of his people.