Nudist Should Christians be Nudist?


Can a Christian be a nudist? What does the Bible say about nudity?
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Question: "Can a Christian be a nudist? What does the Bible say about nudity?"

https://www.gotquestions.org/Christian-nudist.html
Answer: Many pagan cultures throughout history considered public nudity normative, especially Spartan, Greek, and Roman societies.

*****************Inkaboutit4u.com  reply*****  You can see this Christian author is anti-nudist because he first start by saying anti-Christian Pagan Societies were pro nudist. Most people of that day had no major hang up over nudity.  In the article he does mention that God put Adam and Eve on earth 100% Nude.  This is very important to understand because what does God want and Desire?  God wanted all creation to be nudist.   All creation is nudist , accept sinful humans,  which rebelled against God’s creation plan, then and now.
Hebrews 13:8 (TLB)
 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.

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 “…..Although the world’s standards may permit or even encourage nudity, the Bible has a different perspective. It is true that the first humans were created unclothed by God (Genesis 2:25). Adam and Eve were innocent in their nakedness, but after the fall everything changed. When they sinned, “the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked” (Genesis 3:7). Never before had they realized they were unclothed—the concepts of “clothed” and “unclothed” were meaningless to them. Sin affected their hearts and minds, creating vulnerability, guilt, and shame, and these things produced fear (verse 10). In their attempt to cover their spiritual shame, Adam and Eve intuitively covered their bodies. We should note that, when God took away their fig leaves—a sadly inadequate covering—He replaced them with something more permanent—animal skins (verse 21). Thus, God regarded clothing as appropriate and necessary in a fallen world.”


*****************Inkaboutit4u.com  reply*****  He points out that Adam and Eve Eyes were open after they sinned.  What really happen is their sin created confusion , corrupt mind and corrupt conscience.  Titus 1:15 points out : 
15 To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted.
So i ask,  why do we copy corrupt thinking sinful Adam and Eve who rejected God and made corrupt choice to do opposite what God wants.  Jesus came to reverse what Adam and Eve did and Christians are “NEW CREATION “ in Christ, just like sinless, non-corrupt thinking  Adam and Eve were “NEW CREATIONS” in Christ. Christians should be like Adam and Eve were before they sinned, before they got corrupt thinking. Christ makes Christians pure again before God .
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Nudity now has implications of sinfulness attached to it. With few exceptions, the Bible presents nakedness as shameful and degrading (Genesis 9:21; Exodus 20:26; 32:25; 2 Chronicles 28:19; Isaiah 47:3; Ezekiel 16:35-36; Luke 8:27; Revelation 3:17; 16:15; 17:16).


*****************Inkaboutit4u.com  reply*****  This statement is incorrect and verses misleading and verses taken out of context. He is trying to lead you to think nudist is sinful or negative, this is faults. God wanted all creation to be nudist and still does.  But it is corrupt thinking human that come up with corrupt thinking about nudity. Christians are “NEW CREATION” in Christ. The author want to keep treating Christians like they are not “NEW CREATIONS” in Christ,  but same as sinful Adam and Eve. He ignores that Christians are “NEW CREATION” in Christ. Most of the Bible verse he used nudity is not the focus but there sinfulness is the focus.

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The only passages in which nudity is free of shame are those that describe Eden’s idyllic setting or that deal with marital relations (Proverbs 5:18-19; Song of Solomon 4).


*****************Inkaboutit4u.com  reply*****  Creation is very super important because it clearly shows us what God himself wanted us to be nudist. Clearly show us that God wanted all creation to be nudist.  Many other things in the Bible promote nudity.

God command Holy Prophet Israel to walk around nude for 3 years.  If there was anything wrong or sinful with nudity God would not command Israel to be nude for 3 years.

 Jesus was basic nude when he washed the Disciple feet.

 Fishermen fished in the nude. 

Farmer would farm in the nude

They did sports in the nude.

Romans had 150 nude sport complex in the area which had both Christian Church and Jewish worship place inside of them.

They swim in the nude.

 Most did not have bathroom inside they would go to the river or lake to wash themselves in the nude.

 God chose a nude exposed penis as a sign to all that Jewish were God chosen people.

 In that society rich people would wear and show off expense clothes as a status symbols.  The verse on “modesty” was about Christians not to wear expensive clothes because it would put down or chase away the poor who had little or no cloths.
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We still live in a fallen world, surrounded by lust, immorality, and perversion.


*****************Inkaboutit4u.com  reply*****  God did not change his mind. God’s creation plants and animal are still nudist. God wants all followers of God to follow God’s creation plan of nudity, not evil sinful Adam and Eve sinful plan to reject God and HIS creation plan. They have and use wrong definitions for all the 3 negative words.
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The innocence of Eden is gone.


*****************Inkaboutit4u.com  reply*****   Jesus came to reverse what Adam and Eve did. Just like sinless, pure Adam and Eve, Jesus makes true Christians  pure and “NEW CREATION” in Christ .

Titus 1:15: 
15 To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted.
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 Naturist philosophy ignores the results of the fall.


*****************Inkaboutit4u.com  reply*****   This author ignores the fact that Christ came to reverse what Adam and Eve did.  He ignore that Jesus make Christians pure and a “NEW CREATION” just like Adam and Eve were before the fall. He ignores that creator God wanted all creation to be nudist including all “NEW CREATION” Christians.


Nude Baptism In Early Christianity

Nude Baptism In Early Christianity


Wednesday, November 7, 2007

Part of http://nudebaptisminearlychristianity.blogspot.com

Nude Baptism In Early Christianity
Early Christians were baptized nude because they believed that baptism somehow "reversed the curse." One aspect of the symbolism of nakedness was the comparison of Christ, designated as "the second Adam" (see Romans 5:14, 1 Corinthians 15:22,45), with the first Adam prior to The Fall:

St. Chrysostom, speaking of baptism, says, Men were naked as Adam in paradise; but with this difference; Adam was naked because he had sinned, but in baptism, a man was naked that he might be freed from sin; the one was divested of his glory which he once had, but the other put off the old man, which he did as easily as his clothes.

St. Ambrose says, Men came as naked to the font, as they came into the world; and thence he draws an argument by way of illusion, to rich men, telling them, how absurd it was, that a man was born naked of his mother, and received naked by the church, should think of going rich into heaven.

Cyril of Jerusalem takes notice of the circumstance, together with the reasons of it, when he thus addresses himself to persons newly baptized: As soon as ye came into the inner part of the baptistry, ye put off your clothes, which is an emblem of putting off the old man with his deeds; and being thus divested, ye stood naked, imitating Christ, that was naked upon the cross, who by his nakedness spoiled principalities and powers, publicly triumphing over them in the cross. O wonderful thing! ye were naked, imitating the first Adam, that was naked in paradise, and was not ashamed.

So also Amphilochius in the Life of St. Basil, speaking of his baptism, says, He arose with fear and put off his clothes, and with them the old man. . . (Institutes of Biblical Law, p. 758, Presbyterian & Reformed Publishing, 1973).

According to Rev. Rousas J. Rushdoony, a conservative Reformed theologian:

Since baptism meant in part the believers' death and rebirth or resurrection in Christ, it was very early associated with the Easter season, although
not exclusively so. This same aspect, rebirth, led to an interesting custom which survived for some centuries as basic to baptism, namely, baptism, usually by immersion, in the nude.

Sprinkling and immersion were both used by the church, which recognized sprinkling, after Ezekiel 36:25, as the mark of the new covenant. Aspersion was also very early a common practice. The emphasis on death and rebirth led to a stress on immersion as symbolically representative of this fact. Men were born naked; hence, they were reborn naked in baptism. No works of the unregenerate man could be carried into heaven; therefore, the candidate symbolically stripped himself of all clothing to indicate that he had nothing save God's grace.

There were two baptistries thus in churches for some generations, since men and women were baptized separately. Romans 6:4 and Colossians 2:12 were passages cited to confirm this practice of symbolic burial and resurrection.

This practice of naked baptism indicates how seriously the Biblical symbolism was taken by the early church; nothing was avoided, and sometimes over-literal applications resulted.Umberto Fasola of The Christian Catacombs of Rome indicates that their catacombs show Christians being baptized in the nude. The Jews, in their parallel rite of proselyte baptism, insisted upon this to such an extent that "a ring on the finger, a band confining the hair, or anything that in the least degree broke the continuity of contact with the water, was held to invalidate the act" (C. Taylor, The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles, Cambridge, 1886, pp. 51, 52).

The allusions of the early Fathers imply a like nudity in their method of celebrating the Christian rite (Bingham, Origines, XI, xi, 1; DCA, i, 160).

According to the Australian EJournal of Theology:

Just prior to entering the water the candidates removed their clothes, for the baptism was received nude. This surprises moderns, for we wonder about modesty. This may be a consideration in the instructions of the Apostolic Tradition (21.4-5) to baptize the small children first, the grown men next, and finally the women. In order to observe decency women deacons assisted at the baptism of women according to the third-century Didascalia (16), repeated in the 4th century Apostolic Constitutions (3.15-16).

In the baptism of a woman, the male presbyter anointed the forehead, pronounced the formula, and dipped the head, but the female deacon anointed the body and received the woman as she came out of the water. Some baptisteries may have had curtains.Another factor is that the
ancient world seems to have had a more relaxed attitude toward nudity.

The nudity expressed the idea of new birth- hence in art the baptizand is shown not only nude but smaller than the baptizer. This manner of representation is not an indication of infant or child baptism but follows artistic convention. The newly baptized person put on a white garment, symbolizing purity (INAUGURAL ISSUE - AUGUST 2003. ISSN 1448 - 6326).

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