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Is masturbation a sin? Masturbation is a gift of God. Sex is a gift of God to us.Is masturbation a sin? Sexual lust is not evil lust, it is God designed human nature. Evil lust is hurtful and harmful to humans. Masturbation is healthy. Masturbation is good. Masturbation is God designed. Masturbation is good for you. Masturbation is for everyone to enjoy. But many still ask, ?Is masturbation a sin??

 

 To conclude the masturbation is a sin, the same logic would have to conclude that all sexual activity is a sin. The same body parts are used,  same mind,  the same lust, and the same God designed and God given sex drive in use in masturbation as well as sexual intercourse. Everything is the same accept sexual intercourse requires a partner.

 

  Since surveys show 94% of people masturbate, this would also include that most every person on earth from the beginning of time, also masturbated, but no one of the 40+ Bible authors said that masturbation was a sin, which also would include the normal health God designed sexual lust that goes along with Masturbation. Masturbation is loving yourself thinking of loving another and loving God more for giving us a wonderful gift of sexual enjoyment which includes masturbation and built in God designed sexual lust or desires. God made it a said it was very good. Gen 1:31

 

You Choose to believe the 40+ Bible authors who says it is not a sin to masturbate or these people who read between the lines and take Bible verses out of context to back up their Gnostic heresy.        

    Is masturbation a sin?

 

>>>>>> This is an important topic, since a majority of both men and women practice masturbation. The Bible never says that it is a sin, nor does the Bible voice approval of it. Scripture never mentions it by name. This has led some to the conclusion that masturbation may or may not be a sin - it falls into the gray zone. Some have labeled it as sin by saying it is an act of fornication. Others have said that masturbation is an act that prevents fornication by releasing tension. If we are truly honest, the only real voice that speaks to what is sin is God Who speaks to us in the Bible. So let us examine the scriptures in search of principles to guide us on this subject. <<<<<<<<<

 

Reply from Inkaboutit:

He starts out by clearly stating that, ?The Bible never says that it is a sin? and then ends it with a statement, ?let us examine the scriptures?, to see if they can force their Gnostic Heresy into the Bible somewhere, because if the 40 Bible authors did not clearly say it was a sin, then the Gnostic will made it say it is a sin, no matter what, to support there Gnostic heresy and condemn all normal humans with God give, and God designed sex drive.

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>>>>>>>>Here are some questions to consider.

 

   Question  Consideration  

 Is masturbation fornication?  Ancient sources indicate that the word Jesus used for fornication (pornea) referred to male/female prostitution, homosexuality, lesbianism, bigamy, polygamy and any unnatural form of intercourse. Is it possible that masturbation was included? We do not know, and so we dare not conclude that it is, since no evidence as yet exists.  

 Does the practice of masturbation lead to sensuality?  Can a person practice masturbation without engaging in sensuality which is clearly sin (Gal. 5:19)? Ephesians 2:3 tells us that selfishness and sensuality are acts and attitudes of the natural man. The passage reads, ?we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh.?  <<<<<<

 

Reply from Inkaboutit:  With every one of these you have to use consistent logic with sex with your partner. ?Does the practice of  ?sexual intercourse? lead to sensuality? ?  Replace masturbation with ?sexual intercourse?  and see if he is using consistent logic to proof his point. The same lust and desire is used in both.  Sexual lust is normal and God designed and important part of our sexuality. If you take away sexual lust you will have a major problem.   The ?lust of the flesh? that is evil is the ?sin principal? part. Being unloving, unkind, meanest, selfish,  along with the ?fruits of the flesh: in Gal 5.  But they use the wrong definition for adultery, fornication and other sex tern to support their Gnostic heresy.

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What is the definition of fornication?
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Adultery?  Adultery, What is it in the Bible?
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What are the different Bible definitions?
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Survey Christians-- what % have had an affair?

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 >>>>>>>Can one have pure thoughts while masturbating?  Can the thought patterns that accompany masturbation be considered pure? Do they reflect those things in Philippians 4:8?

Finally, brethren, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is of good repute, if there is any excellence and if anything worthy of praise, let your mind dwell on these things. (NASB) Phil. 4:8   <<<<<<<<<<

 

Reply from inkaboutit:  God designed sex to be  sexy. God designed it, I did not. God said it was very good or excellent. Gen 1:31  God could have designed it anyway he wanted. God designed it and said it was very good. Both loving masturbation sex  and loving partner sex. Christians are judged under the law of love.

 

Ga 5:13 - For you have been called to live in freedom ? not freedom to satisfy your sinful nature, but freedom to serve one another in love.

Note:"sinful nature"- this is the "sin principal" part of us. Being unloving, unkind, unforgiving, unthankful, being mean, selfish, rude, etc opposite of 1 Cor 13. God designed the human nature and said it was very good. Gen 1:31 We added the "sin principal" part.

 

Tit 1:15 Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

Jas 2:12 - So whenever you speak, or whatever you do, remember that you will be judged by the law of love, the law that set you free.

Micah 6:8 The Lord has told you, human, what is good; he has told you what he wants from you: to do what is right to other people, love being kind to others, and live humbly, obeying your God. 

Ro 13:9 - For the commandments against adultery and murder and stealing and coveting ? and any other commandment ? are all summed up in this one commandment: "Love your neighbor as yourself."

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>>>>>>>>Matthew 5:28 says that thoughts about a sinful act are the same as committing the act itself in God?s eyes.  

 Does your conscience condemn you?  James 4;17 and 1 John 3:21 tell us that if our conscience warns us that we are sinning then we are in sin. Surveys indicate that almost every Christian who practices masturbation and a majority of those who are not Christians feel guilty over their actions. <<<<<<<<<<

 

  Matt. 5:28 is totally misunderstood and taken out of context. "look at a women with lust...adultery"

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  >>>>>>>>. Question  Consideration  

 Does this practice enslave me?  Can I stop any time I want (1 Cor. 6:12)? Counselors state that once started it is very hard to stop and many times it becomes compulsive. <<<<<<<<

 

Reply from inkaboutit:    Does ?sexual intercourse? enslave me????  Inconsistent logic.  Does this food enslave me?  Does this breathing air, going to bathroom, taking a bath or show, riding in a car,  enslave me?  Misusing Bible verses to try to force his Gnostic Heresy into the Bible.

 

The Cause for a great deal of the sexual negativity in our culture. When did sex became bad?
The false Gnostic ideal that sex was a sin or evil was forced into the Christian thinking and is kept there by taking the Bible verses out of context.

Gnosticism Lies Gave Sex A Bad Name

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Who, when, and How Sex Was Made A Sin??

How Sex Was Made A Sin

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>>>>>>>>> Does masturbation bring glory to God (1 Cor. 10:31)?  The issue is more than just hurting your testimony or hindering God?s witness in the world. Are we positively bringing God glory by our life and actions? David said that he would walk with integrity even in his house when no one could see him (Ps. 101:2).<<<<<<<<<<

 

Reply from inkaboutit:  love yourself thinking of loving another and praising God for the Gift of sexual he has give to us to enjoy.  Gnostic heresy promote hating the Body God gave you, hating sexuality, hating masturbation, and result in hating God for torment you with sexuality that you did not chose, it was force on you by God.

 

  

 >>>>>Would Christ do this?  1 John 2:6 indicates that we are to walk even as He walked. Remember that He too was tempted as we are, yet was without sin.<<<<<

 

Reply: They use the man made assumption that masturbation is a sin, with out proving it in any way. Christ knew masturbation was not a sin and is part of the sexual design.  Gnostics would disagree.

 

>>>>> Will it keep you free from lust?  2 Timothy 2:22 tells us to flee youthful lusts, which means that we are to stay away from that which causes us to fall into sexual temptation and other related sins. While many have argued that this is the best reason for the practice of masturbation, most who have practiced masturbation actually have a stronger lust drive.<<<<<<

 

Reply:  Will sexual intercourse?  They assume ?youthful lusts? means sexual desires. It does not. It is evil lust. Sexual Desires is not evil lust it is God designed.  Another misuse of the Bible.

 

  >>>>>>    Suggestions for patterns of sin! If you believe masturbation is a sin, here are some suggestions to help you have victory.<<<<<< 

 

Reply:  Masturbation is not a sin, rather it is a gift of God to cause us to love God more for giving us wonderful gift of masturbation. It has many (50) benefits and helps to to love ourselves and loving fantases of others and we love God more.  People who avoid masturbation harm their body in many ways and it can lead to cancer and depression and self hatred.

 

50 Benefits of sexuality

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Solo Sex and the Bible. Wonderful benefits and a Gift from God.(masturbation) (Many links)

Masturbation God’s Gift to All to Enjoy

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Advantages of MASTURBATION By Ph.D Albert Ellis (50 Advantages) 5 pages of Sexual Advantages, Emotional Advantages, Healthful Advantages, Relational Advantages, and others. http://inkaboutit4u.com/?p=Masturbation_50_Advantages_of_Masturbation

Modern Sex Research Says This About MASTURBATION 23 Benefits By Manfred F. Martino a College Professor. http://inkaboutit4u.com/?p=Masturbation_50_Advantages_of_Masturbation

Why is MASTURBATION so Popular. Page 14 - 15 reasons. http://inkaboutit4u.com/?p=Masturbation_Why_Is_It_So_Popular

The Healing Power of Sex. Celibacy can be hazardous to your health. http://www.libchrist.com/sexed/healing.html

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Solo Ejaculations Maintain Healthy Prostate For Men http://inkaboutit4u.com/?p=Masturbation_Many_Health_Benefits

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Compares some of the characteristics of sin and of masturbation. Is   MASTURBATION a sin? Or a gift from God. Compare and find your own conclusion.  http://inkaboutit4u.com/?p=Masturbation_Compare_Gods_Gift_VS_Sin

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Ask The Healthy Devil SUBJECT: Masturbation Posted: November 22, 1996 QUESTION: I have been masturbating for at least once a week for the past few years. May I know whether this good for my health or would it affect my future ...

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Masturbation is required

People who don't masturbate are less sensual. I have met a few women in my life who said that they have never had an orgasm. All of those women were firmly against masturbation.

Masturbation is the art of turning yourself on, and if you can't turn yourself on, how can you expect someone else to do it? Orgasms are complex reactions that are different almost every time.

People who don't explore the art of sexual ecstasy when alone will be less skilled at achieving sexual pleasure even when they are with someone else.

People who don't masturbate tend to be less relaxed during sex If someone is unable to touch or stimulate their sensitive sex organs themselves, they will also be uptight when someone else touches them.

Also, if they are unpracticed at touching themselves, they will be helpless in instructing their partner on how they like to be touched. Finally even though the other partner is often of the opposite sex, people who can't touch themselves are often less skilled at touching others.

People who don't masturbate tend to find sex disgusting We are taught from a young age that sex and sex organs are gross and to be hidden. People who don't explore their sex organs through masturbation, tend to hold-on to the fear and disgust about sex organs. By masturbating with a positive attitude, people come to accept themselves and their bodies which allows them to be more comfortable when they are naked with their partner.



Solo Ejaculations Maintain Healthy Prostate For Men

Solo Sex is Good For You: When you consider the health benefits, it makes sense that smart, sexy men would opt for lots of solo sex. First, erections are good for erections: Each time you have an erection, you recharge the penis with tissue-nourishing oxygen that ultimately keeps you going longer, stronger, This is even more vital for older men who have fewer nighttime erections to provide the oxygen replenishing.

Second, many urologists consider three or four ejaculations a week good medicine for the prostate, since each ejaculation empties the prostate of built-up secretions (kind of like the way a sneeze clears the nose). Throw in the psychological benefits you get from having orgasms and you've got an equation for sexual health. And it makes no difference whether you're having intercourse or masturbating--as far as your body's concerned, a climax is a climax.

...I find additional confirmation. It comes from Ken Goldberg, M.D., in Volume II No. 4 of Prime Health and Fitness: "Finally, although I know this one will be tough to face, try to ejaculate regularly. Because the prostate provides some of the fluid in semen, ejaculation may help keep it well-drained. You can consider that a prescription."

One or two fully satisfying ejaculations a week should be sufficient--even fewer if your semen production is low. (Quoted from Celebrate The Self -- The Magazine of Solo Sex, Jan.- Feb. 1997)...


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Religion doesn't play an inhibiting role anymore; people are still practicing their faith and not having conflicts between the religion and masturbation: Research would tend to disagree with any statement that says religion is no longer negatively influencing the ability of humans to explore and enjoy, guilt-free, their sexuality (particularly sex play enjoyed in solitary). The Janus Report on American sexuality shows a direct correlation between religious preference and participation in masturbation. In answer to the survey statement, "Masturbation is a natural part of life and continues on in marriage," 63% of Protestants and 67% of Catholics either agreed or strongly agreed. However, this contrasts with 75% of Jewish respondents who agree or strongly agree and 77% of respondents with no religion. Protestants and Catholics who disagreed with the statement were twice as numerous as those who were Jewish or had no religion. Interestingly, the Janus report found that enjoyment of masturbation was much more prevalent in the West and Northeast parts of the U.S. than in the Midwest or South where church-going is more popular. Survey findings in Sex in America do not cover relationships between masturbation and religion but there is one survey question, relating to masturbation and guilt (page 167), which reveals that masturbators are more often than not subject to guilt when they pleasure themselves. Guilt, as we know, is often, if not usually, associated with religious training.

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Compares some of the characteristics of sin and Masturbation.

Some sins shorten life.---- Research shows that M... helps people live longer and happier.

Sin does not give a sense of well being in children.---- Research shows that children who M... have a higher sense of well being and desire for personal development.

Some sins cause pain.---- Research shows that M... relieves pain. It releases endorphins, a natural pain reliever relaxes the whole body.

Some times sex sins can lead to aids which hurts the immune system.----Research shows that M... is a booster of the immune system.

Some sins cause emotional disorders. ---- M... causes no emotional disorders. Research has shown M... and sex is very important for good mental health, for relaxation.

Research shows that the lack of sexual enjoyment or lack of sexual stress tension release (M...)can causes irritability, insomnia, psychosomatic disorders, depression, and even hopelessness leading to suicide.

Sin causes stress.--- M... removes or reduces stress.

Sin is pleasurable for a short season only, then causes some conflicts and consequences. --- M... is pleasurable for a lifetime with no conflicts or consequences. It has over 50 health benefits for a lifetime of enjoyment.

Sin clouds the mind and thinking. --- M... clears the mind and bring back clear thinking.

Resentment toward God for not having a marriage partner to meet the need for sexual release torment. --- God meets the sexual stress tension release needed with M... at puberty, when He gave sexuality as gift. Praise goes to God for giving fun and enjoyable Gifts and meeting our needs.

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From: J** Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 01:58:41 EST

I find this page refreshing.

I used to be so against masturbation, I spent so many years stressing over this issue feeling so much guilt and shame. I used to be so obsessed with this issue, I prayed, fasted, did cold showers and anything else I could think of to break free. I would have victory for a while but always seemed to end up falling at some point. I actually did go 15 months in 1994-95 without masturbating, but eventually fell. The first 2 to 3 months was hell, then it got easy to go without.

I could not figure out a way to stop for life and I had been struggling with this issue for 15 years by that time. I changed my opinion about a year ago. I just started to realize that it was so stupid to obsess over this issue. I honestly feel that God does understand and that it is an acceptable form of release.

From: M****** Jan-31 3:10 pm

God Bless You . You've got the courage of your convictions. I have felt this way for decades but it is only recently that I've felt strong enough to express my innermost thoughts and feelings. As you may well know I am Roman Catholic. The Church's position is contrary to mine, but that's ok. I know how I feel. Keep up the good work.

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Personal Stories about What Christian Women think about Masturbation.

#1

...I am a 22 year old female that has been masturbating for quite a while now. I started when I was 12 years. I have been a born again Christian since the summer of 1992. After I became a Christian I started to feel deeply ashamed. The shame was so intense that I never told anyone about my behavior. But I continued to do it. I was afraid to tell my female Christians. Not because I didn't think I could trust them, but because I was afraid of how they would react. So I kept silent.

...A couple of days ago, I was talking with a close friend of mine. She's married and a very strong Christian. She is also not afraid to confront me when I need it. So I wanted to hear her opinion on the topic of masturbation. I asked her point blank if she thought masturbation is a sin. Much to my shock and amazement she told me that she didn't think it was. I was speechless. So I quested her about it.... I truly believe that in my situation I am not sinning when I masturbate. Here are some reasons why I say that.... ...The friend I mentioned earlier is married and she admits that she also masturbates. She has not denied her husband sexually in any way....

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After reading the many posts and responses on this page I'm amazed at some of the narrow mindedness of some people.

First off, Is it better that a single person mb to relieve sexual tension or to go out and do the actual sin of having sex outside of the boundaries of marriage??

I was recently a youth/college worker within my church and I've seen youth struggle with their sexuality, as I have too as a single person.

God gave us a sex drive for a reason. He meant for us to enjoy sex to the fullest extent with the person we marry. But for some of us, we choose to pursue other areas of our life before we are ready to settle down and get married. And for others, we're just to young to get married...besides..why get married just so you can have sex, isn't that an even greater sin in itself?

...As far as I'm concerned, it is much better to mb then to go out and have sex. There is no scripture or even a hint in any passage in the Bible...where is the sin?...

People in the church spend far too much time trying to remove our God-given sexuality and making us feel guilty for things that aren't wrong.... You can argue about "our body the temple" and "defiling the marriage bed" but that does not prove that it is wrong....

...Masturbation is a way to stop us from actually defiling the marriage bed and I would much rather mb then to sin against God and my future husband by having sex outside of the marriage vows....

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J... I am a 31 year old woman and I have masturbated since I was about 6 years old. There was a time in junior high when I was masturbating 3-4 times a day.... I came from a very strong Christian home. I told my generally loving parents about this when I was 13 years old and my father told me that I was a nymphomaniac and basically made me feel disgusting. So, after when I was 16 I began experimenting sexually because I figured that my father was right and that I would have no way of controlling myself....

Well, after a few years of unhappiness, I read a book by James Dobson which had some very understanding comments about masturbation. It totally changed me and helped me to realize that masturbation wasn't the sin,...

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What if your spouse physically can't due to permanent injury or some such? Does this mean that the still able should never again attain "release"? If that is where God puts him, huh?

What about reading too much into the bible or over-interpreting. If God had wanted to forbid this act completely wouldn't He have said so plainly?

Instead He teaches us the correct spirit for us to take. It is wrong for me to do so because it takes away from my spouse. It is selfishness. But for the person who does it because their spouse no longer can, who is being hurt by his/her doing so?

It keeps the marriage together, keeps from involving others in our marriages (sexually) and somewhat lessens the pain/guilt that the unable spouse must feel. Or at least I would think it would.

It would be the selfish thing to get divorced and/or take a lover. Or to go completely without and get yourself all stressed out creating anger and resentment that will undoubtedly affect the unable spouse.

I just would like to see where in the bible it says that the act itself is against God. I'm not saying that it doesn't say so, I'm always missing stuff or not getting it in the Bible, but I haven't seen anything yet to convince me that masturbation is a sin in itself.

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Jackinworld conducted a survey among their readers. 12 Results indicated that the average frequency of masturbation drops from 11 per week at age 11, to 5 per week above age 35. There are wide fluctuations in frequency from individual to individual. 84% of respondents had started to masturbate at or before the age of 13. Afterwards, 89% felt happy and relaxed; 10% felt guilty; 1% felt nervous. Among the very religious readers who had surfed their site 2 months or less, the percentage who felt guilty was 19%. We have a hunch that religious instruction does not cut down on the numbers of youth who masturbate. It does not reduce the frequency of masturbation. It only makes more of them feel more guilty.

Currently, the general belief within the medical community is that masturbation is either harmless or beneficial. R. Jandl commented in an "Ask the Doctors" column that masturbation has a number of benefits:

it enables the playing out of pleasurable sexual fantasies

it releases sexual tension and often produces a pleasant, tranquil feeling

it helps a person become more comfortable with their own sexuality

it is an enjoyable experience when shared with a partner

it can curb impulses to have inappropriate sex with someone. 8

Other references list additional benefits associated with masturbation:

no one gets pregnant by masturbating.

sexually transmitted diseases are not transmitted during masturbation.

a person can learn about the sexual responses of their own body, and thus be better prepared for sexual activity with a partner at a later time

People may masturbate throughout their lifetime without any deleterious side effects.

Most sexuality and mental health professionals have concluded that such fantasies are normal and healthy; they are not harmful. Sexual attraction to other people is natural and, to a degree, automatic and unavoidable. Of course, if a person acts upon these fantasies inappropriately, then they can become sinful and even criminal.

Most liberal Christians probably ignore Matthew 5:28, just as they ignore passages requiring women to cover their hair in church, which ban polyester-cotton clothing, or which ban the eating of pork, shrimp, or a cheezeburger. They would not treat the fantasy aspect of masturbation as an item of concern.

A religious liberal would probably conclude that manual stimulation of the genitals is in no way sinful. fantasizing about a person who one is in love with or would like to be in love with: Fantasies are internal thoughts that bring pleasure and do not impact on anyone else. As noted above, they are harmless.

(optionally) experiencing an orgasm: An orgasm is a very intense, joyous, sensual experience. Physiologically, the closest experience to an orgasm is the act of sneezing. A religious liberal would probably conclude that an orgasm is a morally neutral, and very pleasant experience.

(in the case of a male) having an ejaculation of semen: The testicles produce semen at the rate of thousands of sperm a second.

Reservoirs near the prostate gland are continuously being refilled. Each ejaculation partially empties the chambers. But more sperm will arrive to refill them. If they are not emptied by masturbation or intercourse, they will automatically be voided during sleep in the form of nocturnal emissions. A religious liberal would probably conclude that an ejaculation is harmless.

Most liberal Christians would conclude that masturbation is a harmless activity, not particularly sinful, and one which generates considerable pleasure.

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Sin & Death in Mormon Country: A Latter-day Tragedy

By Mark A. Taylor*

On March 2, 1982, Kip Eliason, age 16, distraught and filled with self-hate over his inability to stop masturbating, committed suicide. Before asphyxiating himself, Kip left his father a note:

"Dear Dad,

"I love you more than what words can say. If it were possible, I would stay alive for only you, for I really only have you. But it isn't possible. I must first love myself, and I do not. The strange feeling of darkness and self-hate overpowers all my defenses. I must unfortunately yield to it. This turbulent feeling is only for a few to truly understand. I feel that you do not comprehend the immense feeling of serf-hatred I have. This is the only way I feel that I can relieve myself of these feelings now. Carry on with your life and be happy. I love you more than words can say.

"--Your son, Kip

Kip Eliason's five-year struggle to overcome masturbation started at age 11 when his grandmother persuaded him to join the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

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Masturbation naturally results in shame:

No, that isn't the case. Shame is a learned behavior and it is taught by the church and by parents who have been indoctrinated to the idea that masturbation is shameful. There is no holy spirit "convicting" people of their sins; we learn these feelings from others. Sex Without Guilt (1958) by Dr. Albert Ellis is a classic in this area of sexual feelings. People troubled by guilt or shame should have this volume by their bedside at all times.

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Sin is pleasurable for a short season only, then causes some conflicts and consequences. --- M... is pleasurable for a lifetime with no conflicts or consequences. It has over 50 health benefits for a lifetime of enjoyment.

Sin causes stress.--- M... removes or reduces stress.

Sin clouds the mind and thinking. --- M... clears the mind and bring back clear thinking.

The lack of sexual release may lead to a blockage, causing harm and pain and possibly cancer to the body. --- Regular M... keeps the sexual fluids moving, preventing any blockage. Reduces the risk of cancer.

Build up of sexual fluids causes undo sexual tension stress, which causes a stronger temptation to commit fornication and adultery. --- Regular M... reduces the temptation to commit fornication and adultery.

Sexual starvation for sexual stress tension release cause a person to be thinking of sex all the time. --- Regular M... stops the starvation., helps to bring thinking under control again.

Resentment toward God for not having a marriage partner to meet the need for sexual release torment. --- God meets the sexual stress tension release needed with M... at puberty, when He gave sexuality as gift. Praise goes to God for giving fun and enjoyable Gifts and meeting our needs.

Part of: http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/LustGal5.html

Keep in context. Gal 5:19-26 The context is that they were arguing and fighting and not being loving at all, over the law, special over circumcision. Paul defines and spelled out what the sin nature is, as well as what are the actions of the fruits of the spirit. Basically how we treat each other.

Masturbation as well as other basic needs, like eating food, going to the toilet, taking a shower, put cloth on, do not meet the description of the fruits of the flesh or sinful nature. But do reflex the fruits of the spirit. Masturbation (emptying your sexual fluids) is no more Idolatry then eating food or going to the bathroom and emptying your bladder. Masturbation doesn't cause sorcery, hatred, strifes, jealousies, angers, contentions, disputes, schools of opinion, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revels.

Masturbation is loving yourself, (love your neighbor as you love yourself, love your wife as you love yourself) causes peace, joy, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness by taking away the sexual starvation which is causing you to act like a raging bull in the first place. Masturbation is and brings self-control causing you to have more control over preventing fornication and adultery. Instead of peeling (urinating)in your pants you show and practice self control by going to the bathroom a head of time and empty your urine sack or bladder before it is overflowing so you don't lose self-control. Masturbation lets you empty your sexual fluid sacks before your become a out of control raging bull and you are greatly tempted to sin. Masturbation does not cause you to become conceited, provoking and envying of each other.

Part of: http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/Lust1.html

JTCL said:3) Masturbation in the long run increases lust in my opinion rather than relieves it as you believe.

If all you can think of is sexuality and then you masturbate your mind is clear and the stress removed. Just like if you have to go to the bathroom to urinate, but you resist, all you can think about is that you need to urinate. Then once you give in and meet that basic need to urinate, then your mind is clear and you can refocus on what you were doing. Masturbation only take a few minute, otherwise you thinking about sex can take hour of distraction. The longer you resist, the long you waste time thinking about sexual things, when you could be more concentrating on what you should be doing. I have learned over many years that the sooner I masturbate, the sooner my mind is cleared up and I can concentrate on the job I'm doing.

Mental Masturbatory Abuse Part of: http://www.raw-psych.com/bioi.html

[This very sincere letter was received from a reader. First he complimented the Confidential Biography website, then went on to tell his secret story. I had no idea what I was in for when I first read it.]

I am past 70 years of age and have had a life-long session with masturbation. All of it very personal, confidential and carefully hidden! Therefore, I was very emotionally gripped by your candidness and detailed explanation of your feelings in Confidential Biography. Never did I think that I would be privy to such an account, and find that I wasn't such a "bad, no-good kid" after all. I have never shared my secret with anyone - not even my wife, to whom I was married for 17 years. She died of an unexpected illness at age 38. She and I were the same age.

..."That's the end! I have warned you time after time about playing with yourself, and what it would cause! Now, it MUST be stopped, and stopped for good, before you can ever go to school. Go out to the kitchen and bring me the big butcher-knife! This is the last time! I AM GOING TO CUT THAT THING OFF!! That is the only way that you will be able to quit that nasty game, so, to save your life, it will HAVE TO BE CUT OFF!"

GO TO THE WEB SITE AND READ THE REST....

 

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